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SAS: Who Dares Wins

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Anyone been watching this?

25 civilians put through British special forces training. Females have been allowed to join this time.

They've even got a former female Swedish special forces soldier undercover with the recruits.

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4 hours ago, Thrush said:

Anyone been watching this?

25 civilians put through British special forces training. Females have been allowed to join this time.

They've even got a former female Swedish special forces soldier undercover with the recruits.

That's odd, we don't allow females in our special force (we only have one, the Swedish military copied how you guys do things. This unit is a mix of SAS and SBS) 

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13 minutes ago, Ice man said:

That's odd, we don't allow females in our special force (we only have one, the Swedish military copied how you guys do things. This unit is a mix of SAS and SBS) 

Odd indeed. They said she was Swedish special forces. :im_023:

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Just looked it up. She's called Petra Malm

"She is a former Swedish Special Forces Officer and was the first women to join the ranks in her native country. Petra served in the Special Operations Group for 10 years." :im_023:

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And another thing, why is it called SAS: Who Dares Wins when the chief instructor and two of the DS are all former Royal Marines who all served in the SBS.

I guess SBS: By Strength and Guile doesn't have the same appeal. :28:

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12 hours ago, Thrush said:

Just looked it up. She's called Petra Malm

"She is a former Swedish Special Forces Officer and was the first women to join the ranks in her native country. Petra served in the Special Operations Group for 10 years." :im_023:

I looked her up. She was attached to them during an operation but she didn't belong to them. Our special forces have other professionals attached to them from time to time. Have you served in our special forces, you aren't allowed to talk about it 

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5 hours ago, Ice man said:

I looked her up. She was attached to them during an operation but she didn't belong to them. Our special forces have other professionals attached to them from time to time. Have you served in our special forces, you aren't allowed to talk about it 

She wasn't Swedish SF but she says she was? 

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1 hour ago, Thrush said:

She wasn't Swedish SF but she says she was? 

SHE didn't say, the TV company did!  World of difference!  Just like those "Security Experts" that get dragged in front of a TV camera everytime there is a terrorist incident, who immediately give away the tactics they would employ!  :lol:

 

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17 minutes ago, The REAL Alan Marsh said:

SHE didn't say, the TV company did!  World of difference!  Just like those "Security Experts" that get dragged in front of a TV camera everytime there is a terrorist incident, who immediately give away the tactics they would employ!  :lol:

 

She says she was on her social media profile and on her own website. :im_020:

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1 hour ago, Thrush said:

She says she was on her social media profile and on her own website. :im_020:

In that case, I'll just add her to that list of Security Experts!  Mercenaries more interested in the pay and attention than the job!

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33 minutes ago, The REAL Alan Marsh said:

In that case, I'll just add her to that list of Security Experts!  Mercenaries more interested in the pay and attention than the job!

It's the ones that stay below the radar that you have to worry about. :ninja:

But she is a attractive in a strange sort of way. :sly: 

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I think her behavior on social media is mix between those people participating in all these reality shows and the stolen valor. How many of your ex SAS and SBS are known to the public? I have personally more respect for the ex special forces I don't know about than I have for those coming out and saying they were in the SAS or the SBS. 

 

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Special Boat Service personnel can obtain a silver medallion from the mint. It is very understated - most people would not recognise it, but they of course will recognise each other. I was proud to be asked to engrave one which I did for minimal cost. I wish I could afford to do them for free.

I'm guessing most forces use a similar means to identify each other - Cumbria police used to have enamelled Rupert Bear badges, while some forces traffic officers have Black Rat badges. I have noticed that these "tokens" are usually only respected when worn discreetly... and those wearers who don't, usually have an immediately obvious character flaw!!
I was impressed when I did some work for a young officer in EOD, when a few of my forces clients recognised work I was doing for him, as they knew him... mainly by reputation, and yet his work is clearly unnoticed by his civilian neighbours!
Similarly I did some work for a senior RM officer who was leaving, and presenting some memorabilia to his unit.
Four years later he has come back to me with an enquiry for more work in his civilian role, so I have become party to the story behind "The Red Telephone Box", and his UN role in Serbia.

These "celebrities" - like Bear Grills and others, make me feel uneasy about them!

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It's surprising how many genuine ex UKSF there are kicking about. You get some who are very open about it, others who never say a word.

 

I know o f a police dog handler who was, and all he says is he did 14 years in the army, he's been asked to apply for firearms by someone who knows his history, he'd rather run around the countryside with his dog.

 

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8 hours ago, Ice man said:

I think her behavior on social media is mix between those people participating in all these reality shows and the stolen valor. How many of your ex SAS and SBS are known to the public? I have personally more respect for the ex special forces I don't know about than I have for those coming out and saying they were in the SAS or the SBS. 

 

Our former SF guys tend to go public once they've left. I guess the money for becoming a celebrity/going public is too good to turn down.

I could name several of them. 

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3 hours ago, The REAL Alan Marsh said:

Special Boat Service personnel can obtain a silver medallion from the mint. It is very understated - most people would not recognise it, but they of course will recognise each other. 

That's the SBS for you, understated. Just the way they like it. :im_020:

3 hours ago, The REAL Alan Marsh said:

I'm guessing most forces use a similar means to identify each other - 

Some have a secret handshake. :sly: 

3 hours ago, The REAL Alan Marsh said:

These "celebrities" - like Bear Grills and others, make me feel uneasy about them!

Grylls is a fraud, a poor man's Ray Mears. :im_020:

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2 hours ago, Random said:

It's surprising how many genuine ex UKSF there are kicking about. You get some who are very open about it, others who never say a word.

Well the SF has a strength of about 2000 and a typical SF career lasts for something like 6-10 years so there's plenty of them out there living as civi's.

2 hours ago, Random said:

I know o f a police dog handler who was, and all he says is he did 14 years in the army, he's been asked to apply for firearms by someone who knows his history, he'd rather run around the countryside with his dog.

Fair play to the guy. Police command and deployment of firearms differs greatly to how the military use them so maybe that's why.

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7 minutes ago, Thrush said:

Our former SF guys tend to go public once they've left. I guess the money for becoming a celebrity/going public is too good to turn down.

I could name several of them. 

The ones who go into private security tend to keep a low profile. There are still relatively few who chase the publicity by releasing a book or whatever.

I must admit I was surprised when a picture appeared (on a private account) of my cousin outside a UK business premises brandishing an RPG launcher, flanked by colleagues with a Kalashnikov and hand gun. The firm offers security services in the UK - including door staff at large events... so I was keen to know what are they doing with such hardware on the premises, but wise enough not to ask! They do have a private ambulance in their fleet of vehicles!
My cousin was just visiting - he works for a firm that finds jobs for ex-services personnel - usually paramedics etc., but obviously there is a less well known aspect too.

Prior to leaving the army he spent some time in Namibia, at a time when there was no known UK presence there, and he stayed in far longer than is normal, working for the Army Careers service (recruitment!)

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5 minutes ago, The REAL Alan Marsh said:

The ones who go into private security tend to keep a low profile. There are still relatively few who chase the publicity by releasing a book or whatever.

Private security no longer pays as well as it once did 10 years ago. 

The lack of book authors is because as of October 1996, anyone serving with or joining the UKSF, or rejoining after a period of absence, has been required to sign a confidentiality agreement. That requires you to apply to the MoD for prior written authority to disclose (among other things) any information relating to the UKSF in your possession by virtue of having been a member of the UKSF.

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15 minutes ago, The REAL Alan Marsh said:

I must admit I was surprised when a picture appeared (on a private account) of my cousin outside a UK business premises brandishing an RPG launcher, flanked by colleagues with a Kalashnikov and hand gun. The firm offers security services in the UK - including door staff at large events... so I was keen to know what are they doing with such hardware on the premises, but wise enough not to ask! They do have a private ambulance in their fleet of vehicles!
My cousin was just visiting - he works for a firm that finds jobs for ex-services personnel - usually paramedics etc., but obviously there is a less well known aspect too.

Companies can apply to the Home Office for prohibited weapons and ammunition (section 5) authority

Not unusual for such weapons to be possessed by private maritime security companies for example.

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17 minutes ago, Thrush said:

Companies can apply to the Home Office for prohibited weapons and ammunition (section 5) authority

Not unusual for such weapons to be possessed by private maritime security companies for example.

Yes... we had local men killed recently in Kabul while working as private security. I was more puzzled because my cousins friend's business does NOT advertise services outside the UK!

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7 minutes ago, The REAL Alan Marsh said:

Yes... we had local men killed recently in Kabul while working as private security. I was more puzzled because my cousins friend's business does NOT advertise services outside the UK!

They may not advertise it but it doesn't mean they don't..... :ninja:

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2 hours ago, Thrush said:

Companies can apply to the Home Office for prohibited weapons and ammunition (section 5) authority

Not unusual for such weapons to be possessed by private maritime security companies for example.

There is (was) a US corrections contractor called USC-SOG they were issued a S5 FAC in order to bring pistols, rifles & launchers into the UK to train the prison service's NTRG. After paying for training the prison service were refused permission to buy their own.

 

Individual BTP officers were issued S5FAC till some legislation was ironed out for their firearms unit.

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14 hours ago, Thrush said:

That's the SBS for you, understated. Just the way they like it. :im_020:

Some have a secret handshake. :sly: 

Grylls is a fraud, a poor man's Ray Mears. :im_020:

The naval "handshake"? 

The majority of military personnel have survival training. I can relate to what Ray Mears does, but not to Grylls  

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6 hours ago, Ice man said:

The naval "handshake"? 

Yes. :im_020:

6 hours ago, Ice man said:

The majority of military personnel have survival training. I can relate to what Ray Mears does, but not to Grylls  

Ray Mears trains British special forces. Grylls is just in it for the fame and wouldn't last a day without his support team.

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The difference between RM & BG is BG actually passed SF selection, he Jacked it after breaking his back. He s apparently not well liked for trading on his 5 minutes in.

 

RM has skills but I just don't like him.

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2 hours ago, Random said:

The difference between RM & BG is BG actually passed SF selection, he Jacked it after breaking his back. He s apparently not well liked for trading on his 5 minutes in.

But there's some scepticism I believe amongst the SF community on his SAS service and whether he actually did break his back on an exercise.

I personally cannot stand the guy.  Cutting about Lympstone like he's someone important because he was made a RM Honorary Lieutenant Colonel. Won't be getting a salute or addressed as Sir from me that's for sure.

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I'm not part of that community so won't be told their thoughts but even if he was only in for a year, he was in.

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8 minutes ago, Random said:

I'm not part of that community so won't be told their thoughts but even if he was only in for a year, he was in.

I get what you're saying. Yes he was in and fair play to him for being so.

But I once told by some guys who know more about that stuff than I do, that some of his claims while serving don't add up.

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21 hours ago, Thrush said:

I get what you're saying. Yes he was in and fair play to him for being so.

But I once told by some guys who know more about that stuff than I do, that some of his claims while serving don't add up.

He is similar as those people in reality shows. he is very far from the SAS people I know about. I am thinking about the guy who was "visiting" the Iranian embassy. He has passed away now, I think. A blonde guy with a huge mustache. He reminds me about those who fought with Lt. Col David Stirling, Lord Lovat, Mad Jack Churchill, and all the others of the old breed. These men would never think about being in a reality show  

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11 minutes ago, Ice man said:

He is similar as those people in reality shows. he is very far from the SAS people I know about. I am thinking about the guy who was "visiting" the Iranian embassy. He has passed away now, I think. A blonde guy with a huge mustache. He reminds me about those who fought with Lt. Col David Stirling, Lord Lovat, Mad Jack Churchill, and all the others of the old breed. These men would never think about being in a reality show  

John "Mac" McAleese?

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18 minutes ago, Thrush said:

John "Mac" McAleese?

Yes

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1 hour ago, Ice man said:

Yes

He was being investigated for child porn offences prior to his death. There was an international arrest warrant and extradition from Greece for him.

Innocent until proven guilty. Sadly we'll never find that out.

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8 hours ago, Thrush said:

He was being investigated for child porn offences prior to his death. There was an international arrest warrant and extradition from Greece for him.

Innocent until proven guilty. Sadly we'll never find that out.

I didn't know that. 

 

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Babbel is a self teach language app - technophobe! :raz:

 

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33 minutes ago, BossHogg said:

Babbel is a self teach language app - technophobe! :raz:

 

Don't need to learn another language. I'm already proficient enough with the important ones. :im_020:

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Fluent in perv. :D

 

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3 hours ago, Thrush said:

I get a link to download an app? :huh2:

:28: Sigh.....

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50 minutes ago, BossHogg said:

Fluent in perv. :D

 

That's one of them. :sly: 

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13 minutes ago, Ice man said:

:28: Sigh.....

I don't trust you with your dodgy websites. :fu: 

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9 hours ago, Thrush said:

That's one of them. :sly: 

Fluent in profanity and talking shite too, if other RM officers are anything to go by!

:lol!:

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9 hours ago, Thrush said:

I don't trust you with your dodgy websites. :fu: 

But will you trust me teaching you what to say to Swedish women? 

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5 hours ago, Ice man said:

But will you trust me teaching you what to say to Swedish women? 

No. 

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On 2019-01-20 at 14:01, Thrush said:

No. 

You will get reactions if you say what I suggest you to say. 

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1 hour ago, Ice man said:

You will get reactions if you say what I suggest you to say. 

What's Swedish for "Would you like to see my one eyed snake?".

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21 minutes ago, Thrush said:

What's Swedish for "Would you like to see my one eyed snake?".

Du har väldigt fina ögon 

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21 minutes ago, Ice man said:

Du har väldigt fina ögon 

Du har en fin röv?

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